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WARNING: politics, sex, religion, and Tierfal-style, opinionated offensiveness ahead.

Cindy McCain and others have asserted that Alaska's proximity to Russia has contributed to Palin's foreign-policy knowledge. What dealings has she had with Russia?

The campaign has not come up with any. Palin has never been to Russia.

From this Slate article.

Sorry; I was amused. :P

...California is close to Mexico, so I speak Spanish.

Yo quiero Obama, chicas.

This one frightens me, though, and I think rightfully:

Did she want to ban books from the public library as mayor of Wasilla?

Yes, at least according to John Stein, the town's former mayor. Stein says Palin asked the Wasilla library "how she could go about banning books" with offensive language. It's not clear whether any book was ever banned.

I'm sorry, but anyone who believes in banning books in a public library should NOT be running my country.

Hey, while I'm talking politics, I should throw some religion in, just to make this worse:

Does she believe in evolution?

Palin said in a 2006 debate that she supports teaching creationism alongside evolution in public schools on the grounds that "healthy debate is so important." She did not insist that creationism become a part of the curriculum. In the same debate, she said she believed in a creator and avoided an up-or-down stance on evolution.


I mean, who said that?

OH, SWEET, I can throw sex in, too!  I'm three for three!

What are Palin's views on abortion?

Palin has said she is "as pro-life as any candidate can be" and called abortion "an atrocity." She has supported mandatory parental consent, and while she is pro-contraception, has also indicated her preference for abstinence education over "explicit sex-ed programs." She would permit abortion in cases where the mother's life was endangered, but not in the case of rape or incest.

I saw the best flair button on Facebook once -- "If the fetus you're saving is gay, will you still fight for its rights?"

...yes, I will stop editorializing and hating on Ms. Palin now.

...for the moment. >:E

.../flaming liberal of epic proportions

Date: 2008-09-06 11:24 am (UTC)
jenwryn: (Farscape - J/A - shoot things)
From: [personal profile] jenwryn
I shall limit myself to a concise: "EXACTLY".

And it's not even my country...

Date: 2008-09-06 11:44 am (UTC)
jenwryn: (Death Note - Light)
From: [personal profile] jenwryn
P.S. Can you even vote yet? I can never remember when y'all actually come of age, legally, etc. I know you can't drink till you're 21, but can't remember what else you can or can't do...

Date: 2008-09-06 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tierfal.livejournal.com
At first I was like, "WELL-PLAYED, MR. MCCAIN," and now I'm more like, "Umm, do not want." XD

Yeah, we get to vote at 18. It's slightly ridiculous -- they trust us on the highways at 16 and with our country's leaders at 18, but we can't have alcohol until 21. What? Though my favorite is that we can't rent cars until 25, which, according to a National Geographic article I once read, is when the brain is actually fully developed as far as understanding consequences...

Anyways, yeah, I voted in the Democratic primaries earlier, and it was tres cool and so on. Then I was too lazy to vote on some town stuff that came up. XD

Date: 2008-09-07 01:26 pm (UTC)
jenwryn: (Actors - Oldman rly?)
From: [personal profile] jenwryn
Yeah. The whole voting versus drinking thing is a bit odd... XD

My Opa was ranting about the elections today (what's new). He finds the Australian system abominable, seeing as voting is compulsory. Although, seeing as he isn't even an Australian citizen and thus can't vote here anyway, I fail to see why he has such a bee in his bonnet about it. I guess I don't care, because I'd probably vote anyway. Although the up-and-coming local elections will be the first time I've ever voted in Australia - I've been overseas for both the past two Federal Elections. Crazy.

Um. Totally pointless comments, but there you go.

Date: 2008-09-07 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tierfal.livejournal.com
Very odd. Ah, government. XD

Compulsory voting is an interesting idea... I support the idea of everybody getting at least a little into politics, but I don't think I support enforcing it. How do they enforce it? O_o

And yay, voting is kind of exciting. XD

Hey, pointless comments are kind of the best ones. :D

Date: 2008-09-08 05:16 am (UTC)
jenwryn: (DW - Ten doctor)
From: [personal profile] jenwryn
I have nooo idea how they actually enforce the compulsory voting, now that I think about it. I mean, I know in this up and coming local thing, there's a $55 fine if you don't turn up. So, yeah, seems that it's the usual way of dealing with Aussies - you have to threaten our wallets before we get motivated with much anything at all, lol. We're pretty much apathetic about these things, on the whole.

The main problem with making it compulsory is that you, obviously, get folks who just turn up and play pick-a-box without any real comprehension of who they're voting for. Or you get "donkey votes", where they've just numbered everyone in the order they're listed on the ballot. But as I say to my Opa, if it weren't compulsory, probably nobody would turn up at all...

Mainly we enjoy bitching about politics more than actually understanding it, and making fun of politicians is a national sport(political cartoons are priceless), and we have generally not even a pretence at respect for our leaders (which I think you guys seem to have - or at least, that's the image you like to present to the rest of the world, IMHO).

Date: 2008-09-08 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tierfal.livejournal.com
Aha, the old wallet strategy! Well-played, Australian government. XD

Yeah, though, I know what you mean -- at least the people around here who can't be bothered to learn which party they like don't have to skew the results for the rest of us. D:

Haha, we... do not have the remotest pretense of respect for our leaders. XD It's funny that we give that impression; Bush jokes are about as good as Yer Mom jokes in some contexts...

Date: 2008-09-09 10:19 am (UTC)
jenwryn: (Death Note - L chair)
From: [personal profile] jenwryn
Oh, dear me, sorry, yes, I confess that I wasn't including Bush when I made that statement! I mean, the entire universe gets a kick out of making fun of Bush; for a while there he'd taken the place of the old Dumb Blonde, I reckon.

But yeah, apart from Bush America (to us little outsiders anyway) seems to, as a whole, give out this image of taking politics so very earnestly, and your individual politicans get so much more limelight than anyone else's (for example, we get as much coverage of the US presidential elections, practically, on our TVs, as we get of our own federal elections), and sometimes it's as though they have some kind of rock star status. The rallies! The conventions! Just... wow. Admittedly, I guess you have a helluva lot more people than we do so...

Randomly, it is a well-known fact that most Australians can list more American Presidents than they can list Australian Prime Ministers. WTF? (Hell, I'm one of them, and I've graduated in Australian History at a tertiary level...!!)

Date: 2008-09-10 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tierfal.livejournal.com
Hahaha, no worries. I think that will be one of Bush's legacies, however -- the fact that he can unite vast groups of people who like to make fun of him.

Think you're right that we cover politics like mad, though. Politicians and celebrities seem to be the only people we care about in the media world... and sometimes the line between them gets very blurry. XD Like when you consider the fact that the governor of California is none other than the Terminator...

I... cannot name a single Australian Prime Minister, I'm afraid. XD I know a couple French presidents! :x

Date: 2008-09-10 02:28 am (UTC)
jenwryn: (Death Note - Matt/Mello ilu)
From: [personal profile] jenwryn
LOL! I never expected you to be able to name an Aussie PM! I'm good with the ones who've been in power since I've been around (let's see, Bob Hawke, Paul Keating, John Howard, Kevin Rudd), but after that it gets much foggier, and so I only sort of know the ones who did something "interesting" or controversial. Or, like Harold Holt, who vanished mysteriously in term and was supposed to have been abducted by Russians, or aliens, or you know, something. ;)

Date: 2008-09-10 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tierfal.livejournal.com
Props to Harold Holt! ...I think? XD

Reminds me of a teacher we had in high school who disappeared from his post under mysterious circumstances that were never fully explained. Rumors flew like confetti. XD

Date: 2008-09-10 06:12 am (UTC)
jenwryn: (X-Files - Mulder - no shit)
From: [personal profile] jenwryn
Oh, Holt's awesome. I love a good conspiracy theory, and they never did find out what happened to him (officially he drowned but that's boring, heh). I mean, it was way before my time, but I've even mentioned him in a fanfic (not that anyone else probably got it), which was one of the many lovely things about writing something from the POV of an Australian girl, lol!

Date: 2008-09-10 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tierfal.livejournal.com
Haha, conspiracy theories never cease to entertain. XD Officially "drowned"... *snerk* Yeah, uh huh, sure. 8D

Someday I'll need this tidbit of trivia and look like a genius. XD

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